Can I have my PDF professional bound?

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Can I have my PDF professional bound?

#1 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:35 pm

Senior Shane,

I just purchased the Players Guide from RPGNow and would very much like to have it printed and bound at Kinkos. But I'd hate to violate any copywright laws so I though I'd check first to make sure this was OK.

Thanks.

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#2 Postby Count Zero » Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:23 pm

Permission is given to print copies for you and your immediate gaming group. This is a site license which is in print on page 3 of the pdf.
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#3 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 14, 2003 6:28 pm

Not on page 3 of the PDF I just downloaded or anywhere I can find in it in this version.



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#4 Postby MadTinkerer » Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:21 pm

Which Player's Guide are we talking about? Both Evernight and Deadlands Player's Guides are fine to print out for personal use. Just don't go around selling 'em :wink:
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#5 Postby Anonymous » Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:48 pm

Sorry, the Deadlands one.

There is no notice about "print for personal use" in the pdf so I just wanted to be sure.

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#6 Postby Count Zero » Tue Oct 14, 2003 7:55 pm

The Site License is right next to the Table of Contents...can't miss it as it takes up the right half of the page.
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#7 Postby Damaramu » Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:26 pm

So can I burn the LC Companion and take it to Kinko's and get a print version of it? Because I didn't notice that option and I *hate* PDF's.
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#8 Postby Turtle » Tue Oct 14, 2003 11:58 pm

Yep. That's the main point of PDFs. Low initial cost to consumer, and he just has to pay a small extra amount to have it professionally printed, or he can just print it at home.

I don't see that big a difference between printing it at home or at a shop. So long as you're not mass producing and distributing, it shouldn't be an issue.

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#9 Postby jblittlefield » Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:51 am

Turtle wrote:Yep. That's the main point of PDFs. Low initial cost to consumer, and he just has to pay a small extra amount to have it professionally printed, or he can just print it at home.

I don't see that big a difference between printing it at home or at a shop. So long as you're not mass producing and distributing, it shouldn't be an issue.


Ditto. It doesn't matter where you print it and binding is not an issue under copyright law. The point is that you can print and bind a copy for personal use - that's the whole point of PDF releases :)

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#10 Postby PEGShane » Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:50 am

Absolutely.

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#11 Postby jblittlefield » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:37 am

PEGShane wrote:Absolutely.

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Can you bind it for me ... ;)

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#12 Postby dr evil » Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:46 am

OF course to be fair, it can cost almost as much to have it printed or print your own than to buy the finished product. Case in point I downloaded the Deadlands PG, and I had it printed at a local technigraphics. It took 2 days and cost about $22.50, which wasn't too far from the cost of the original book (also I had mine done all B&W to save cash, well except the cover and it was bound and cover laminated:) ) Now don't take this as an attack on the PDF situation, but rather an explaination of the possible saftey of the PDF format.
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#13 Postby jblittlefield » Wed Oct 15, 2003 11:44 am

dr evil wrote:OF course to be fair, it can cost almost as much to have it printed or print your own than to buy the finished product. Case in point I downloaded the Deadlands PG, and I had it printed at a local technigraphics. It took 2 days and cost about $22.50, which wasn't too far from the cost of the original book (also I had mine done all B&W to save cash, well except the cover and it was bound and cover laminated:) ) Now don't take this as an attack on the PDF situation, but rather an explaination of the possible saftey of the PDF format.


That's why I bought a laser printer (good ones run around $200 these days and get 5000 or so copies before having to spend $50 on a toner cartridge replacement) - they're much more economical in the long run than ink jets. I also bought a binder package (machine, 50 coils, and 100 cover sheets) for $225 (about half of what it would cost to get 50 bindings done professionally not even counting additional costs due to page count) on sale. I own tons (over 200) of PDFs and the initial $425 outlay paid for itself (by savings from PDFs over hardcopy and increased printing output) within 6 months. I prefer PDFs because I can replace damaged pages and add in my own stuff ;)

As PDF technology improves/becomes more popular look for prices to drop and quality to improve ;)

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#14 Postby Balance » Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:14 pm

I really miss having access to a wide-format InkJet. I used to be able to print to a 3 foot wide roll-fed InkJet that would have been great for maps...
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#15 Postby jblittlefield » Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:34 pm

Balance wrote:I really miss having access to a wide-format InkJet. I used to be able to print to a 3 foot wide roll-fed InkJet that would have been great for maps...


Luckily, I have a bud who's an architect. Those plotter printers sure are nice ;)

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#16 Postby Anonymous » Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:31 pm

Thanks Shane.

The only reason I got the PDF was casue I cannot find a printed copy of the DL Players handbook. So printing cost is no big deal to me.

it was weird that I could not find a "premission to duplicate" notice anywhere in it though.

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