Iron Dynasty: Playtesting Call Out!!! - Update Dec 3rd, 2006

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Do you like the name as it stands?

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Iron Dynasty: Playtesting Call Out!!! - Update Dec 3rd, 2006

#1 Postby razorwise » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:26 pm

Greets.

I'm not typically one for creating new topics without just cause, but this one is here because you've demanded to totally ignore my feelings, trample my creativity, and stifle any wishes I may have to title my own works. In other words, some of you don't like what I've named Reality Blurs' World of High-Flying Kung-Fu Fantasy.

For those that haven't read about it, here's the set-up.

Katana: Samurai Steampunk
No one knows exactly when the unfeeling hand of darkness fell across the Bright Empire, only that one morning, the sky was not so blue and the clouds were not so white.

The ancients still among us say that the Empire has lost its soul and that is why things are not quite right in the world. Fat merchants discount their words and say that the Empress sits upon her Lotus Throne, so how could anything be wrong? Wise men sip their sake and say no more while their zealous wards often reply in outrage that the Way has been lost. Those words are often their last as they are taken away to the Blue Bamboo Forest and never seen again.

Even the lowliest peasants know that such machines as the Bamboo Abominations of Tso-Ling did not enforce the Empire’s will in their father’s time, nor did they have dreams of the Seven Dark Samurai like their children do.

Recently, the wind whispers rebellion. Will you heed its call?

* * *

The challenge for you? Come up with a better name. Sell me on why it's a better name and create good karma for you and your descendants. I'm not entirely inflexible, if I see something truly awe-inspiring, I may well use it.

Remember, the honor of your ancestors rests upon your shoulders.

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#2 Postby charliebananas » Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:36 pm

As I've already stated else-where I find it a little flat.

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#3 Postby Shane_Mclean » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:29 pm

I put in a yes vote because I don't dislike the name. it says exactly what the game is.

That said, the name could be a little more "wow", if you know what I mean. Say... MEKatana: Samurai Steampunk, or similar.

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#4 Postby Jackson » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:30 pm

I like Steampunk Samurai better! :lol:

Seriously, just switch em....

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#5 Postby Truckee Games » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:39 pm

jackson wrote:I like Steampunk Samurai better! :lol:

Seriously, just switch em....

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Gotta agree with Ed on this one. Steampunk Samurai is more evocative.
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#6 Postby exwrestler » Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:52 pm

I like the name as it stands.

Steampunk Samurai sounds more like the name of a band than a game.
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#7 Postby Redeucer » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:26 pm

Its not that I hate the name, its just that I think a better descriptive name like you did with Runepunk would be more attention getting. Like the Katanik or Katanika

Steampunk Samurai is good, but I like the idea of a blended name better.

Katanapunk

Steamkatana

Samuraipunk

Steamsamurai

Just throwing stuff out now. I'll keep thinking.

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#8 Postby razorwise » Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:45 pm

jackson wrote:
I like Steampunk Samurai better!

Seriously, just switch em....



Hmmm. Not awe-inspiring, but intriguing in its sublimeness. ;)

redeucer wrote:And thanks for humoring me in my madness.


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#9 Postby palehorse » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:00 pm

redeucer wrote:Katanapunk

Steamkatana

Samuraipunk

Steamsamurai


I was waiting for 'Steamurai' or 'Samupunk' to pop out there in the list... :)

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#10 Postby Byron » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:05 pm

Well, I obviously haven't gotten to play in the setting, but I must say none of the combination names bandied about have enough flow to live up to my impressions of the setting description.

The only suggestion I can offer is a name that's actually japanese such as Tetsukami/Tetsugami (iron spirit). Of course I'm just a fan of japanese culture and language, get your own expert before just using somethiing like that.

I looked up steam powered, but Kiryoku Samurai doesn't flow off the tongue for westerners, so there you go.
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#11 Postby count0 » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:09 pm

Tetsukami

One vote from me!

That being said, there are marketing concerns with such a name, but, it will attract the attention of anyone who recognizes Japanese words when they see them, which should be anyone who would be interested in Samurai settings to being with.

Just a thought, I think this would be a mondo cool name. Maybe even through Savage in front of it.
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#12 Postby King Zombie » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:45 pm

count0 wrote:Tetsukami

One vote from me!

That being said, there are marketing concerns with such a name, but, it will attract the attention of anyone who recognizes Japanese words when they see them, which should be anyone who would be interested in Samurai settings to being with.

Just a thought, I think this would be a mondo cool name. Maybe even through Savage in front of it.


He's got a point..... Testukami = Metal God got my attention

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Steam-Ronin
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Clockwork Empire (of the rising sun)
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#13 Postby palehorse » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:12 am

count0 wrote:Tetsukami

One vote from me!

That being said, there are marketing concerns with such a name, but, it will attract the attention of anyone who recognizes Japanese words when they see them, which should be anyone who would be interested in Samurai settings to being with.


Uh, I'm interested and it means nothing to me.

Everyone more or less knows what 'samurai' and 'steampunk' mean. Using something obscure to attract a niche of a niche of a niche, or counting on people saying, "I wonder what that means?" to get them to pick up the book is not, IMHO, a good idea.

'Steampunk Samurai' does roll nicely off the tongue, however.

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#14 Postby SlasherEpoch » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:15 am

As I told razorwise earlier today: A Japanese word for the book name would not only put me off the book but disgust me to no end and I'd end up ranting about it to my friends again.

Sure, I'm not the target audience, but word-of-mouth is the maker or breaker.

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#15 Postby count0 » Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:56 am

So is it hate for the Japanese, or foreign languages in general? Seems kind of harsh that you'd have to go rant to your friends about the name of a game setting because it was a Japanese word. Disgust? Samurai is a Japanese word. :wink:

Could always use a word from the language spoken by more people on the planet than any other... Chinese.

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Sure, I'm not the target audience, but word-of-mouth is the maker or breaker.
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#16 Postby EssEmAech » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:23 am

Working with a few elements I see in your descrption:

Shogunate of Steam: Shadow of the Bright Lotus

Steam Dynasty: Way of the Lotus (Throne?)?

BoilerRoom Samurai?

Just throwin out some ideas.
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#17 Postby Mr.Joel » Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:27 am

Steel Lotus

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#18 Postby SavagedRobby » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:19 am

I'm in the camp with the flippers as well. Katana: Steampunk Samurai has a nicer ring.
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#19 Postby Clint » Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:42 am

I have to say I think the setting would be served by another name.

First, I don't think it's evocative of the setting which seems to be the introduction of steamtech to (or perhaps "versus") Japanese culture.

I also don't like using the term, "Steampunk," in the name. While there is steamtech, I think the "punk" reference disables the Japanese feel. Plus combining it as "Samurai Steampunk" seems to indicate that the two work together, but the text seems to indicate that the two are more at odds.

Too bad Leagion Publishing already has "Empire of Silk and Steel" because I think "Empire of Silk and Steam" would have been a great name.

As it is, I think maybe a single Japanese name with an English subtitle may be the way to go. Something like...

Joukido: The Way of Steam

If nothing else, that could make a good chapter name for how steamtech works.

Or if I'm not correct about the interaction of steamtech and Samurai, maybe...

Steam Samurai of the Lotus Throne

or maybe...

Steam Samurai: The Bushido of Babbage :wink:


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#20 Postby steamdriven » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:57 am

voted no. sorry but i don't think the name grabs you like runepunk.
as for other name the few i posted before have been posted above by others. the only other name i can offer at the moment is,

Iron Empire.

next time i'll keep quiet!


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