Dragon Snack wrote:FWIW, the last time ICv2 ranked RPGs out to 10th place, Savage Worlds came in 8th on their list. Sure, it's not a scientific ranking, but it's probably a good barometer since it is based on talking to store.
Well, see my first post in the thread for my take on ICv2's results. They've been known to be definitively wrong before, but it's part of the nature of the limited results.
Dragon Snack wrote:That said, if they talked to me I would be throwing off their numbers. Savage Worlds has been the champion at my store for the majority of the time I've been open. It took a little while to get moving, then dominated for years, falling off when SWEX went OoP (losing to 4E D&D and an odd jump in PF) and recently when *all* of my RPG sales slipped (4e has the title currently, but then it's on sale for 20% off).
And there's a perfect example of those limited results. Where SW is strong, it tends to be very
strong. Contacting the same folks over and over again or even primarily the same folks will give similar results over and over again.
And even then, it's also noted that sales "dominated" until the original SWEX went out of print, but that was a $10 book. If the question was not based on the number of rule books sold but the amount of money those sales generated would it still have "dominated?" I doubt it, since it would take selling at least 3-4 times as many books to get near the same cost for just one core rulebook (typically one of multiple) for another system.
Kind of ironic that we might be considered less successful because our lower prices sell more books. Not going to change, but kind of funny.
Dragon Snack wrote:I sell a lot of Savage Worlds at conventions as well, thanks to the Savages running games and the fact that other stores don't carry it (well, one other store has finally caught on after 2 years). I'll say it again, if Pinnacle would be a little proactive and communicate more with stores (like they do directly with customers), they could sell more...
If you have any ideas how we could do that, feel free to shoot me an email. Our contact with the fans is almost exclusively through conventions and primarily these forums, but we didn't really do anything "proactive" to get the fans to participate here, so I don't know what we could do to draw in stores or even if this same format would work with them.
We do have the SW Explorer's Society to reward fans who support and run games at conventions and stores, and Studio 2 (our fulfillment house) sends out news and updates to stores (who sign up for it), but not really sure what else could be done to communicate with stores at the same level as the fans. Still, we're always willing to listen.