Why exactly do Anti-Templars still have their powers?

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Why exactly do Anti-Templars still have their powers?

#1 Postby majcrew35 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:00 pm

Hey guys,

I picked up HoE:R recently and am fascinated by the Templars. The book mentions that once a templar is initiated, his powers can not be rescinded, even if he acts against the tenants of the order.

That made me curious, so I picked up the Classic Templars source book. It details that the Templars power comes from Saints, i.e. heroes that have fallen fighting the Reckoners, and that certain Saints (Martyrs) can provide more specific and tangible aid.

It went on to talk about anti-templars - those that have turned their back on the order, and in many cases are legitimate bad guys. It explained that the Martyrs never support the anti-templars, although they are capable of drawing power from the Reckoners. The book further mentions that the Saints as a whole still support the anti-templars, and no one is sure why.

Is that question ever answered? I'm struggling to understand the nature of the Templars and their power in this context.

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#2 Postby Sonicfox » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:26 pm

Not sure it needs to be said, considering the topic, but......SPOILERS:
Players beware!

The saints don't support an anti-templar.

It mentions that the anti-templars somehow keep their abilitys and it seems like the saints support them.

But really what happens is that when a templar finally goes to the dark-side and the martyrs abandon him, the saints stop powering him as well.

And at that time is when (Unknown to most anyone except the anti-templar leaders) there is a change in management in the newest anti-templar's power supply.

The confusion you're most likely running into, is that not many know that the reckoners take over in supplying anti-templars their abilities. So in the players section everyone thinks that the saints are still letting them be templars, even if the martyrs aren't helping anymore.

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#3 Postby Big Bad Jack » Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:33 pm

I'd say a rather valid question on that permutation is why they still have their powers, given the events of the Unity mega-adventure, but like many other cases of servitors, my guess on that is its not, unless you're say oh, Hellstromme-level, a maintained source but a "one time investment irrevocable" deal (which the inability to revoke a Templar's powers by the Grandmaster or similar gives credence to)

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#4 Postby Capnsmitty19 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:37 pm

How I take it is that they are going to still have their juju, since all the other bad guys still have their powers as long as the deadlands still exist. Id say that as soon as the fear level across the planet starts dropping, then the Anti-templar prolly will start having their powers fade as well.

That is at least how I am going to run it.
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