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DLR: Basic setting metaquestion

#1 Postby NOESKANE » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:23 am

Hello!

Have the original Deadlands & just recently have bought the new Reloaded SW's version & comparing the two, setting-wise, I've found out several differences.
Just out of curiosity, I wonder if you could kindly answer these conundrums:

I noticed the date change for the default campaign's start of 1876 moved to 1879. Any particular reason?

Also, the Pinkertons seem to have "vanished" - why?



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Re: DLR: Basic setting metaquestion

#2 Postby Cutter XXIII » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:06 am

NOESKANE wrote:I noticed the date change for the default campaign's start of 1876 moved to 1879. Any particular reason?

When Reloaded was first released, 1879 is where the metaplot had gotten to. So, that's where Reloaded "begins."

Also, the Pinkertons seem to have "vanished" - why?

The Pinkertons became the Agency in 1877 by order of President Grant. See The Agency: Men in Black Dusters.
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Re: DLR: Basic setting metaquestion

#3 Postby ValhallaGH » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:18 am

NOESKANE wrote:I noticed the date change for the default campaign's start of 1876 moved to 1879. Any particular reason?

Also, the Pinkertons seem to have "vanished" - why?

1) Meta-plot. Stuff has happened, canonically, and the time line has advanced. You can ignore that if you'd like to, but the designers haven't.

2) They reformed into The Agency - the founding core members were mostly Pinkertons. But they are an actual (secret) branch of the U.S. Government.

... And Cutter beat me to it. Danged GM-Cowboy-Ninja-Marshals.
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#4 Postby SlasherEpoch » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:22 pm

I can't find the source to verify it, but I recall dimly that Shane said something to the effect of DLR being closer to the original vision for the Deadlands world. Makes some sense, DLC being compiled over years and years of different writers and creative teams, with DLR being compiled by a smaller cadre.

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#5 Postby NOESKANE » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:51 am

Hi:

So, to annoy you more, what happened in the span between 1876 to 1879 (with spoilers, please, I'm a grownup, I can take it)? :oops:


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#6 Postby Cutter XXIII » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:06 pm

NOESKANE wrote:So, to annoy you more, what happened in the span between 1876 to 1879 (with spoilers, please, I'm a grownup, I can take it)? :oops:

Uh... the entire line of Classic Deadlands books happened.

To recount everything that happened, in detail, with spoilers, would be a pretty long post. :)
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#7 Postby ValhallaGH » Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:19 pm

And the highlights are covered in Deadlands: Reloaded anyway. Where it talks about recent events, both in general and in the various regions of the west.
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#8 Postby Cutter XXIII » Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:20 pm

The now world-famous Deadlands Timeline o' Doom! presents an itemized summary, with references to Classic, Hell on Earth, and Lost Colony books.
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#9 Postby NOESKANE » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:01 pm

Howdy!

Much obliged y'all!

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#10 Postby FoxBlue » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:56 pm

Whoa! I just checked out the timeline o' doom and wow, there is so much... It does seem that reloaded changed some thing here and there. Over all I think I like the more simplified Reloaded history better.

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#11 Postby Thunderforge » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:14 am

I think the big highlights in the setting change between 1876 and 1879 are:

  • The British formally entered the war as an ally to the CSA and took over Detroit in late 1876
  • (Marshals Only): "Bloody Sunday" happened in late 1876 where a bunch of demons broke into the Cathedral of Lost Angels and killed parishioners but were "defeated" by Reverend Grimme. In reality, they were summoned by him and it was a big ritual that enabled Grimme's black magic mojo to appear as holy miracles beyond the scope of Lost Angels
  • The Edict of '77 happened where Grimme declared Lost Angels to be a sovereign state (like the Vatican) and more or less declared that California belonged to him
  • The Pinkertons were formed into the Agency in 1877
  • Jefferson Davis was assassinated in 1878 and Eric Michelle is now president of the CSA
  • The USA and the CSA have officially called a ceasefire to the Civil War.
  • The rail barons got closer to Lost Angels. (Marshals Only): Wasatch was last seen burrowing underneath the Rocky Mountains.
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